Every argument i get into that revolves even remotely about god, that is where the argument goes.
"we should drink a lot of beer."
"no, we should drink water."
"well god made people who made beer, so its a gift from god. So if you do not drink beer then you hate god."
This is how the creationist thinks, when backed into a corner, they get defensive and when they get defensive, they lose all willingness to discuss, and move on to the next person to spill there intellectual pig spit to.
This Particular event that i intended to actually discuss the matter from someone i thought could actually know something, but, alas i have mistaken yet another home song for a deadly siren.
the argument focused on information theory, the idea that DNA is information, and in order for information to exist, a mind must have created it. Sounds logical, that is until you carry it to the next logical step. If we are the product that comes from the plans in our DNA, and that DNA, was designed, the where did that designer come from?
if you are arguing that plans for something are designed by us, and that we ourselves are designed with plans, then where did that designer get the plans that made him?
Is it not logical that any argument that one could make to defy this logic and account for a god would also be applied to us?
if god has always existed, then that simply defies all logic, and again we need an entirely different set of evidence that proves a mind can exist for eternity, and without a physical body. Each step of this chain requires you to take a leap of faith that ultimately requires you to start with god being even capable of existing!
When you try to take a logical argument, and introduce a supernatural entity, you must prove that this thing actually exists before you can even render you argument even valid for debate.
proof of necessity is not applicable if you are merley guessing on what it is that is necessary. That is exactly what the faith they speak of is, a guess. Its also a guess that they are sticking too. Its like saying that there is a magical rock fairy that makes sure that all obsidian stays black. if all obsidian is black then the fairy must exist as well.
I think that what annoys me most of all, the thing that really gets to me, is that these people can engage in such long winded arguments over the most trivial matters in their own theory, provided that you agree that its true and have doubt on small matters, but if its a big matter, such as the whole idea being worthless, well, then the gloves come off. personal insults away!
please people, if you are going to argue, learn how to do it first, otherwise, my head will explode.
i have no problem being proven wrong, but i do have a problem with people who will argue for hours and not say a word worth hearing because they refuse to actualy argue the point.
People of this world need to live life, and learn, and bliond anger, and unwillingness to change your position defy both of these nessessities. If it is something that you are not willing to discuss, then why say it in the first place. If it is not important enough for you to learn about, why argue about it. You may keep your faith, and i will never criticize, but if you do decicde to argue, i am always willing to defend what i know, and i will not cut corners for you to do so.
if you dont want to argue with me, then dont post things that try too, Dont Spam my Email with rants. Dont Fill my inbox with notes that you will pray that god will let me see things the same way as you do. Dont insult my inteligence like this. Dont insult yours either, Know your limitations, and if you dont think you know something well enough to argue about it, dont tell others that they are wrong until you can at least say why you are not wrong.
About once a month, i get these messages, but few have been worth even responding too, and as i just found out today, some of those arent either.
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